Comments for yergler.net http://yergler.net Wed, 10 Mar 2010 05:35:00 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.2 hourly 1 Comment on For Some Definition of “Reusable” by Nathan Yergler http://yergler.net/blog/2010/03/09/for-some-definition-of-reusable/comment-page-1/#comment-18818 Nathan Yergler Wed, 10 Mar 2010 05:35:00 +0000 http://yergler.net/?p=1539#comment-18818 Thanks for the comment and for the original post that nudged me to do my own post. I do need to spend some time with pip. Starting out in the setuptools world, I think I'm a little resistant to something "new", but the flexibility of installing from various DVCS systems is appealing. I also didn't realize it did both setup.py dependencies as well as its dependency file; I'll have to take a closer look. Thanks for the comment and for the original post that nudged me to do my own post. I do need to spend some time with pip. Starting out in the setuptools world, I think I’m a little resistant to something “new”, but the flexibility of installing from various DVCS systems is appealing. I also didn’t realize it did both setup.py dependencies as well as its dependency file; I’ll have to take a closer look.

]]> Comment on For Some Definition of “Reusable” by luispedro http://yergler.net/blog/2010/03/09/for-some-definition-of-reusable/comment-page-1/#comment-18808 luispedro Wed, 10 Mar 2010 03:25:50 +0000 http://yergler.net/?p=1539#comment-18808 This is pretty much what I wanted to express, but your post is perhaps better reasoned. Pylons hasn't solved the re-use problem that much, but punts to the traditional python environment. I do think that it has a bit of a better culture in this regard as it is a more traditional software development instead of web development culture. Also, you are right that we have different expectations: I put up a couple of small websites for small non-profits in my spare time, so there is no talk of hiring anyone. Btw, do checkout pip; the requirements file is what you specify that needs to be installed. It recognises when there are dependencies in setup.py files too, but when they're not declared you can add them manually. This is pretty much what I wanted to express, but your post is perhaps better reasoned.

Pylons hasn’t solved the re-use problem that much, but punts to the traditional python environment. I do think that it has a bit of a better culture in this regard as it is a more traditional software development instead of web development culture.

Also, you are right that we have different expectations: I put up a couple of small websites for small non-profits in my spare time, so there is no talk of hiring anyone.

Btw, do checkout pip; the requirements file is what you specify that needs to be installed. It recognises when there are dependencies in setup.py files too, but when they’re not declared you can add them manually.

]]> Comment on i18n HTML: Bring the Pain by Nathan Yergler http://yergler.net/blog/2010/03/01/i18n-html-bring-the-pain/comment-page-1/#comment-18452 Nathan Yergler Tue, 02 Mar 2010 07:44:23 +0000 http://yergler.net/?p=1501#comment-18452 Yeah, our solution works pretty reliably these days; we're in the midst of retooling part of the license chooser which will eliminate some of the HTML msgid-hating parts, so I think [hope] the next step will be to officially recant my current position ;). Yeah, our solution works pretty reliably these days; we’re in the midst of retooling part of the license chooser which will eliminate some of the HTML msgid-hating parts, so I think [hope] the next step will be to officially recant my current position ;).

]]> Comment on i18n HTML: Bring the Pain by Wil Clouser http://yergler.net/blog/2010/03/01/i18n-html-bring-the-pain/comment-page-1/#comment-18451 Wil Clouser Tue, 02 Mar 2010 07:38:55 +0000 http://yergler.net/?p=1501#comment-18451 We actually wrote a couple scripts for Pootle to make it work with AMO: http://translate.svn.sourceforge.net/viewvc/translate/src/trunk/Pootle/pootle/scripts/history/convert/ It's not a pretty solution and if you've got something working well enough there's no need to rip it off for a different bandaid. :) We actually wrote a couple scripts for Pootle to make it work with AMO: http://translate.svn.sourceforge.net/viewvc/translate/src/trunk/Pootle/pootle/scripts/history/convert/

It’s not a pretty solution and if you’ve got something working well enough there’s no need to rip it off for a different bandaid. :)

]]> Comment on 400 Duboce #113, Now from “Greg Apartments” by Nathan Yergler http://yergler.net/blog/2010/01/05/400-duboce-113-now-from-greg-apartments/comment-page-1/#comment-17777 Nathan Yergler Fri, 12 Feb 2010 22:11:40 +0000 http://yergler.net/?p=1290#comment-17777 Well I no longer live there, so my sanity is being restored :). Oh, and I should've suspected your nefarious ways ;). Well I no longer live there, so my sanity is being restored :).

Oh, and I should’ve suspected your nefarious ways ;).

]]> Comment on 400 Duboce #113, Now from “Greg Apartments” by Greg http://yergler.net/blog/2010/01/05/400-duboce-113-now-from-greg-apartments/comment-page-1/#comment-17776 Greg Fri, 12 Feb 2010 22:04:57 +0000 http://yergler.net/?p=1290#comment-17776 Sorry, I'm trying to start a new endeavor and your sanity just happens to be an unintended casualty. Sorry, I’m trying to start a new endeavor and your sanity just happens to be an unintended casualty.

]]> Comment on Thoughts on Deploying and Maintaining SMW Applications by Yaron Koren http://yergler.net/blog/2010/01/25/thoughts-on-deploying-and-maintaining-smw-applications/comment-page-1/#comment-17741 Yaron Koren Thu, 11 Feb 2010 21:49:55 +0000 http://yergler.net/?p=1353#comment-17741 Alright. Out of curiosity, what's so hard about creating a new package? I've never done it myself, but isn't it just a matter of using Special:Export to make an XML file of all the relevant pages? Alright. Out of curiosity, what’s so hard about creating a new package? I’ve never done it myself, but isn’t it just a matter of using Special:Export to make an XML file of all the relevant pages?

]]> Comment on Maildir to Mbox by chris http://yergler.net/projects/one-off/maildir-to-mbox/comment-page-1/#comment-17687 chris Tue, 09 Feb 2010 09:31:57 +0000 http://nathan.webfactional.com/maildir-to-mbox/#comment-17687 still doesn't work bro :( File "/home/baumi/bin/maildir2mbox.py", line 6 SyntaxError: Non-ASCII character '\xe2' in file /home/baumi/bin/maildir2mbox.py on line 6, but no encoding declared; see http://www.python.org/peps/pep-0263.html for details still doesn’t work bro :(

File “/home/baumi/bin/maildir2mbox.py”, line 6
SyntaxError: Non-ASCII character ‘\xe2′ in file /home/baumi/bin/maildir2mbox.py on line 6, but no encoding declared; see http://www.python.org/peps/pep-0263.html for details

]]> Comment on Thoughts on Deploying and Maintaining SMW Applications by Nathan Yergler http://yergler.net/blog/2010/01/25/thoughts-on-deploying-and-maintaining-smw-applications/comment-page-1/#comment-17532 Nathan Yergler Fri, 05 Feb 2010 05:25:02 +0000 http://yergler.net/?p=1353#comment-17532 I'm sympathetic to the idea that it's a little early to be thinking about this sort of thing, but I think it's necessary if we want to see Applications/Packages/Pagesets take off. One of the reasons CcTeamspace hasn't been updated is that the process for making a release and updating systems is so incredibly painful. Perhaps one of the reasons we don't see other sets of reusable pages is that people don't want to deal with the release and deployment process. As an example, right now the release available for download still uses the old SMW query syntax. That's something we've fixed on the internal installation, but the process of getting those changes out feels like it's not worth it (especially since there's not an easy way for the few people using the pages to update them). So we live with the embarrassment and reply to support emails when people write us. So I guess my response is that yes, it's early, and yes, there is room for improvement in the existing template/category/form[/filter] system, but that doesn't obviate the role for a deployment system. The two are orthogonal, and I think the development of one would benefit the other. I’m sympathetic to the idea that it’s a little early to be thinking about this sort of thing, but I think it’s necessary if we want to see Applications/Packages/Pagesets take off. One of the reasons CcTeamspace hasn’t been updated is that the process for making a release and updating systems is so incredibly painful. Perhaps one of the reasons we don’t see other sets of reusable pages is that people don’t want to deal with the release and deployment process.

As an example, right now the release available for download still uses the old SMW query syntax. That’s something we’ve fixed on the internal installation, but the process of getting those changes out feels like it’s not worth it (especially since there’s not an easy way for the few people using the pages to update them). So we live with the embarrassment and reply to support emails when people write us.

So I guess my response is that yes, it’s early, and yes, there is room for improvement in the existing template/category/form[/filter] system, but that doesn’t obviate the role for a deployment system. The two are orthogonal, and I think the development of one would benefit the other.

]]> Comment on Maildir to Mbox by Nathan Yergler http://yergler.net/projects/one-off/maildir-to-mbox/comment-page-1/#comment-17490 Nathan Yergler Thu, 04 Feb 2010 05:23:43 +0000 http://nathan.webfactional.com/maildir-to-mbox/#comment-17490 Sorry about that; the code had a bug in the <code>sys.argv</code> indexing. I've updated the code to correct that issue. Sorry about that; the code had a bug in the sys.argv indexing. I’ve updated the code to correct that issue.

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