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		<title>Comment on Living With It by Shawn Wheatley</title>
		<link>http://yergler.net/blog/2012/05/15/living-with-it/comment-page-1/#comment-35122</link>
		<dc:creator>Shawn Wheatley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 May 2012 14:37:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great post, Nathan. I just had a conversation about this with one of my customers at work. We were going through the defect backlog and she saw one that was unfamiliar to her. It had been sitting out there for many months and she was very concerned. I went over what was included in this &quot;defect&quot;, which included a process to purge some temporary files to slow our growth rate of 500-1000 *kilobytes* a day. It was not something that needed to be fixed today, but it should be fixed because those files won&#039;t be needed.

It&#039;s a tough culture to introduce in an IT shop that&#039;s used to more &quot;fire fighting&quot; than designing.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great post, Nathan. I just had a conversation about this with one of my customers at work. We were going through the defect backlog and she saw one that was unfamiliar to her. It had been sitting out there for many months and she was very concerned. I went over what was included in this &#8220;defect&#8221;, which included a process to purge some temporary files to slow our growth rate of 500-1000 *kilobytes* a day. It was not something that needed to be fixed today, but it should be fixed because those files won&#8217;t be needed.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s a tough culture to introduce in an IT shop that&#8217;s used to more &#8220;fire fighting&#8221; than designing.</p>
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		<title>Comment on hieroglyph: Easy, Beautiful Slides with Restructured Text by Shawn Wheatley</title>
		<link>http://yergler.net/blog/2012/03/13/hieroglyph/comment-page-1/#comment-34869</link>
		<dc:creator>Shawn Wheatley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Mar 2012 17:14:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I love it! Great work, Nathan!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I love it! Great work, Nathan!</p>
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		<title>Comment on Maildir to Mbox by nobbe</title>
		<link>http://yergler.net/projects/one-off/maildir-to-mbox/comment-page-1/#comment-34463</link>
		<dc:creator>nobbe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Dec 2011 15:14:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Worked very well to transfer my KMail-folders to Thunderbird. Thank you</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Worked very well to transfer my KMail-folders to Thunderbird. Thank you</p>
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		<title>Comment on Updating el-get and getelget.el by Tom Davey</title>
		<link>http://yergler.net/blog/2011/09/26/getelget-update/comment-page-1/#comment-34200</link>
		<dc:creator>Tom Davey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 01 Oct 2011 12:43:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ok, I see now. It sounds like el-get can pull in a greater variety of extension types, not just formally assembled packages, than can package.el. Thanks for this additional explanation.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ok, I see now. It sounds like el-get can pull in a greater variety of extension types, not just formally assembled packages, than can package.el. Thanks for this additional explanation.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Updating el-get and getelget.el by Nathan Yergler</title>
		<link>http://yergler.net/blog/2011/09/26/getelget-update/comment-page-1/#comment-34190</link>
		<dc:creator>Nathan Yergler</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Sep 2011 04:18:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As someone who hasn&#039;t used ELPA or package.el, I&#039;m probably a poor choice to compare and contrast. I can tell you that the two things I like a lot about el-get are the ability to keep Emacs extensions on multiple computers in sync, and the ability to get Emacs extensions from multiple sources -- a package.el repository, or EmacsWiki, git, bzr, svn, hg, etc. So if an author chooses not to package things for package.el, or just throws a snippet up on the EmacsWiki, I can just point to that. I suspect I&#039;ll reevaluate at some point in the future, but right now I have a working configuration that leverages those two features.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As someone who hasn&#8217;t used ELPA or package.el, I&#8217;m probably a poor choice to compare and contrast. I can tell you that the two things I like a lot about el-get are the ability to keep Emacs extensions on multiple computers in sync, and the ability to get Emacs extensions from multiple sources &#8212; a package.el repository, or EmacsWiki, git, bzr, svn, hg, etc. So if an author chooses not to package things for package.el, or just throws a snippet up on the EmacsWiki, I can just point to that. I suspect I&#8217;ll reevaluate at some point in the future, but right now I have a working configuration that leverages those two features.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Updating el-get and getelget.el by Tom Davey</title>
		<link>http://yergler.net/blog/2011/09/26/getelget-update/comment-page-1/#comment-34189</link>
		<dc:creator>Tom Davey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Sep 2011 23:22:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Nathan, thanks for the pointer to the EmacsWiki explanation of el-get. I think it&#039;s correct that ELPA, the repository, is pretty strict about this and that, including Stallman&#039;s insistence on copyright paperwork etc. 

That&#039;s why Nathan Weizenbaum started the &lt;a href=&quot;http://marmalade-repo.org/about&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Marmalade repository&lt;/a&gt; for Elisp packages, which is designed for package.el. So, I&#039;m still kind of wondering: does el-get have an advantage over package.el (included in Emacs), since both can can connect to arbitrary repositories? 

Thanks,
Tom Davey</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Nathan, thanks for the pointer to the EmacsWiki explanation of el-get. I think it&#8217;s correct that ELPA, the repository, is pretty strict about this and that, including Stallman&#8217;s insistence on copyright paperwork etc. </p>
<p>That&#8217;s why Nathan Weizenbaum started the <a href="http://marmalade-repo.org/about" rel="nofollow">Marmalade repository</a> for Elisp packages, which is designed for package.el. So, I&#8217;m still kind of wondering: does el-get have an advantage over package.el (included in Emacs), since both can can connect to arbitrary repositories? </p>
<p>Thanks,<br />
Tom Davey</p>
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		<title>Comment on Updating el-get and getelget.el by Nathan Yergler</title>
		<link>http://yergler.net/blog/2011/09/26/getelget-update/comment-page-1/#comment-34188</link>
		<dc:creator>Nathan Yergler</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Sep 2011 22:58:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.emacswiki.org/emacs/el-get#toc3&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;EmacsWiki el-get page&lt;/a&gt; has what I think is a good answer:

&lt;blockquote&gt;While ELPA is a great thing to have, it’s so easy to find some high quality Emacs extension out there that are not part of the offer. Either authors are not interrested into uploading to ELPA, or they don’t know how to properly package for it (it’s only simple for single file extensions, see).

So el-get is a pragmatic answer here. It’s there because it so happens that I don’t depend only on emacs extensions that are available with Emacs itself, in my distribution site-lisp and in ELPA. I need some more, and I don’t need it to be complex to find it, fetch it, init it and use it.

Of course I could try and package any extension I find I need and submit it to ELPA, but really, to do that nicely I’d need to contact the extension author (upstream) for him to accept my patch, and then consider a fork.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Basically, not everything I want is necessarily in ELPA.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The <a href="http://www.emacswiki.org/emacs/el-get#toc3" rel="nofollow">EmacsWiki el-get page</a> has what I think is a good answer:</p>
<blockquote><p>While ELPA is a great thing to have, it’s so easy to find some high quality Emacs extension out there that are not part of the offer. Either authors are not interrested into uploading to ELPA, or they don’t know how to properly package for it (it’s only simple for single file extensions, see).</p>
<p>So el-get is a pragmatic answer here. It’s there because it so happens that I don’t depend only on emacs extensions that are available with Emacs itself, in my distribution site-lisp and in ELPA. I need some more, and I don’t need it to be complex to find it, fetch it, init it and use it.</p>
<p>Of course I could try and package any extension I find I need and submit it to ELPA, but really, to do that nicely I’d need to contact the extension author (upstream) for him to accept my patch, and then consider a fork.</p></blockquote>
<p>Basically, not everything I want is necessarily in ELPA.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Updating el-get and getelget.el by Tom Davey</title>
		<link>http://yergler.net/blog/2011/09/26/getelget-update/comment-page-1/#comment-34182</link>
		<dc:creator>Tom Davey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Sep 2011 00:24:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I just moved from Emacs 23.3 to 24.0.5 beta. Emacs 24 has a built-in package manager and the GNU ELPA repository pre-configured. It seems to work pretty well. Why would an Emacs user prefer el-get to package.el? 

Thanks,
Tom Davey</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I just moved from Emacs 23.3 to 24.0.5 beta. Emacs 24 has a built-in package manager and the GNU ELPA repository pre-configured. It seems to work pretty well. Why would an Emacs user prefer el-get to package.el? </p>
<p>Thanks,<br />
Tom Davey</p>
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		<title>Comment on super(self.__class__, self) # end of the line for subclassing by Nathan Yergler</title>
		<link>http://yergler.net/blog/2011/07/04/super-self/comment-page-1/#comment-33847</link>
		<dc:creator>Nathan Yergler</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 30 Jul 2011 18:28:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yup, that makes sense. I&#039;m still not sure I think &quot;generic constructors&quot; are useful, though. Explicit better than implicit, etc, etc.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yup, that makes sense. I&#8217;m still not sure I think &#8220;generic constructors&#8221; are useful, though. Explicit better than implicit, etc, etc.</p>
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		<title>Comment on super(self.__class__, self) # end of the line for subclassing by crazy_crank</title>
		<link>http://yergler.net/blog/2011/07/04/super-self/comment-page-1/#comment-33836</link>
		<dc:creator>crazy_crank</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Jul 2011 08:51:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hehe, wonderful, this was exact my problem...
After knowing that, I tried some ideas, i actually found one that works:

class A(object):
    def __init__(self):
        cls = type(self)
        while cls != A:
            cls = cls.__base__
        super(self.__class__, self).__init__()

class B(A):
    def __init__(self):
        super(B, self).__init__()
inside __init__():


In this example, I walk through all the base classes, until I reached the actual base class A.
Then, instead of providing self.__class__ to super() it would do the same, like when I call super(A.__class__, self). 
So it&#039;s possible with python2.6 to use generic constructors.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hehe, wonderful, this was exact my problem&#8230;<br />
After knowing that, I tried some ideas, i actually found one that works:</p>
<p>class A(object):<br />
    def __init__(self):<br />
        cls = type(self)<br />
        while cls != A:<br />
            cls = cls.__base__<br />
        super(self.__class__, self).__init__()</p>
<p>class B(A):<br />
    def __init__(self):<br />
        super(B, self).__init__()<br />
inside __init__():</p>
<p>In this example, I walk through all the base classes, until I reached the actual base class A.<br />
Then, instead of providing self.__class__ to super() it would do the same, like when I call super(A.__class__, self).<br />
So it&#8217;s possible with python2.6 to use generic constructors.</p>
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